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Post by ER on Dec 9, 2020 21:18:01 GMT
Omg a goal
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Post by savo on Dec 9, 2020 21:18:33 GMT
Good plan, we can't shoot so cross the ball into the net.
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Post by Dane B on Dec 9, 2020 21:20:12 GMT
We've actually gone and scored a fucking goal.
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Post by bryan on Dec 9, 2020 21:21:58 GMT
They took 3mins to up the tempo and back in front.....
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Post by ER on Dec 9, 2020 21:38:35 GMT
Shows what a terrible decision it was to sub Taylor
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Post by mrsmith on Dec 9, 2020 21:40:16 GMT
Another shit result.
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Post by bryan on Dec 9, 2020 21:41:32 GMT
I actually think we played much better and looked more dangerous without Taylor on the pitch. Don’t think Guerrero is the answer mind you.
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Post by whitleybayred on Dec 9, 2020 21:43:21 GMT
This is the worst possible result. It’ll make Houghton think we’re close to being a decent side. Would be better to get hammered.
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Post by legsakimbo on Dec 9, 2020 21:43:43 GMT
Still shit. Summed up by a bizzare goal fluke. How is it even possible to create almost zero every single game.
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Post by redman on Dec 9, 2020 21:51:35 GMT
That's so Forest
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Post by nemesiz on Dec 10, 2020 6:26:25 GMT
Still shit. Summed up by a bizzare goal fluke. How is it even possible to create almost zero every single game. Simples. Most Championship clubs employ data analysts nowadays to identify placement and movement of opposition players. Although a manager from experience will identify the opposition weakness from prior matches, and manipulate to his regard. Forest for nearly Four years have played a similar disruptive, zonal, slow counter-attack game, utilising wing play though continually passing into wide areas. Most rival managers have realised that packing the midfield and double man-marking our wingers immediately preventing and stifling our creativity. Whereas last season the likes of Ben Watson, changed-up the pace, and commanded the middle, our movement is now one dimensional and easily read. If you examine previous matches you'll see Christie and Ameobi attempt to break down and run at a defence but immediately surrounded by two or three players (triangulation). Not one player attempts to alleviate the pressure and help take away a player or provide an avenue to pass, instead allows the player to struggle to throw off the opposition. This indicates zonal play, poor communication, ineffective tactics but also no freedom or thought to read the game.
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Post by Dane B on Dec 10, 2020 7:42:00 GMT
We put in 28 crosses last night, and I'm struggling to remember one of them finding a Forest head. Everything we do is down the flanks, which is OK if you have a battering ram of a centre forward. Unfortunately we don't. Taylor isn't that type of centre forward, and Guerrero is just shite. As Nemesiz says, our play is so predictable. CH needs to find a way of expanding our attacking play.
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Post by bearder2006 on Dec 10, 2020 12:26:01 GMT
We put in 28 crosses last night, and I'm struggling to remember one of them finding a Forest head. Everything we do is down the flanks, which is OK if you have a battering ram of a centre forward. Unfortunately we don't. Taylor isn't that type of centre forward, and Guerrero is just shite. As Nemesiz says, our play is so predictable. CH needs to find a way of expanding our attacking play. Dane I'm seeing nothing where it tells me he knows how to because every game is the same boring football no drive no leaders no creative we could not even put a free kick in the box last night . Same players playing what are not good enough yet we have signed 14 new players
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Post by legsakimbo on Dec 10, 2020 13:00:17 GMT
We put in 28 crosses last night, and I'm struggling to remember one of them finding a Forest head. Everything we do is down the flanks, which is OK if you have a battering ram of a centre forward. Unfortunately we don't. Taylor isn't that type of centre forward, and Guerrero is just shite. As Nemesiz says, our play is so predictable. CH needs to find a way of expanding our attacking play. Dane I'm seeing nothing where it tells me he knows how to because every game is the same boring football no drive no leaders no creative we could not even put a free kick in the box last night . Same players playing what are not good enough yet we have signed 14 new players This is worrying. 69 players signed but what, 13 or max 14 out there to field a team that are in the bottom 3. Are none of the other 55 players signed and still here or fucked off not better than a relegation placed team.? Chris Hughton seems to be of that rigid school of thought where his plan B is to try and force plan A to work better. I haven't seen one single plus from CH yet that instils any confidence that he's any better than the two dozen before him. He must surely be hurtling toward the territory of having the worst record of any manager. When his team can't even score a goal, and I don't consider last nights a real goal (though technically it is of course) the signs are there in all magnificent technicolour glory. I honestly think if we played Coventry and Wycombe again after next week they would beat us. Right now this side is only capable of scraping a nil all.
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Post by legsakimbo on Dec 10, 2020 13:08:43 GMT
Dane. 28 crosses. This has been the same for months, I would say 1 in 20 deliveries into the box find a team mate and 9 out of 10 that miraculously do find a team mate, it's a glancing header, a scuffed swing at the ball, a ricochet of someone's arse. Last night a cross fluked it's way into the net and Lolley had a tame shot from 40 yards straight into the keepers mid riff. Was there anything else. Wonder which player they will trot out this week for a statement that they intend to work even harder. Which only suggests to me they have plenty left in the tank they haven't bothered using yet if they can work all the more harder after every consecutive defeat. Wankers.
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Post by richardroper on Dec 10, 2020 13:28:11 GMT
At the risk of getting shot down:
Whilst it was doghsit, it was better dogshit than recent doghsit. Before the game nobody imagined we would get a sniff of anything against a Norwich flying high at the moment. We couldn’t imagine getting a shot either at goal or wide of it and there were a lot more balls in there than previously. Lolley is better if he’s over that right wing than where he can tuck in just outside the box to get something off and he looked a lot less lost than previous games.
I’m also surprised we didn’t concede more. Norwich had worked out what a defensive liability we have in Christie and a lot of those slicing passes down that end should have resulted in a lot more goals for them. We looked a little bit tighter there looked to be more actual tackling than the usual Yates style of simply shoving a player.
However if he hasn’t learnt that we’re a lot more fluid with Yates and Colback out then this will be as good as it gets.
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Post by Dane B on Dec 10, 2020 17:35:16 GMT
We put in 28 crosses last night, and I'm struggling to remember one of them finding a Forest head. Everything we do is down the flanks, which is OK if you have a battering ram of a centre forward. Unfortunately we don't. Taylor isn't that type of centre forward, and Guerrero is just shite. As Nemesiz says, our play is so predictable. CH needs to find a way of expanding our attacking play. Dane I'm seeing nothing where it tells me he knows how to because every game is the same boring football no drive no leaders no creative we could not even put a free kick in the box last night . Same players playing what are not good enough yet we have signed 14 new players The only difference CH has made is that we chase the ball when out of possession, as opposed to just sitting back under Lamouchi. Apart from that, it's the same old shit we've been seeing for years. I just don't understand the mentality of having two DM's sitting deep. It just allows the opposition to play further up the field. Just one DM, and let us play higher up the field. That'll do for starters.
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Post by jazz1930 on Dec 10, 2020 18:22:30 GMT
Hi all
What i can't seem to fathom from all this since Marinakis took ownership of the club there has been a massive influx of players totalling 69 either on a permanent or loan deals along with several managers. How is it possible all these players can be so bad and with not one single manager able to pull some kind of respectability some method some formation some leadership some consistency to make a decent side, is it the expectation levels or the history of the club or is it the club culture over all?
Seriously though why are things so very poor with the playing staff and why every single season
Thoughts?
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Post by richardroper on Dec 10, 2020 18:23:59 GMT
Dane I'm seeing nothing where it tells me he knows how to because every game is the same boring football no drive no leaders no creative we could not even put a free kick in the box last night . Same players playing what are not good enough yet we have signed 14 new players I just don't understand the mentality of having two DM's sitting deep. It just allows the opposition to play further up the field. Just one DM, and let us play higher up the field. That'll do for starters. Definitely agree with this. No point in playing down where we need to endlessly defend as we can’t take the pressure for the length of time we try to sit and absorb it. We do look ’better’ if we’re generally up their end and we don’t let them keep their defensive discipline. If we’re going to have a DM also we need one who can transition and do so quickly and start playing the ball forward swiftly to keep the game up where we are pressing.
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Post by Dane B on Dec 10, 2020 19:04:24 GMT
I just don't understand the mentality of having two DM's sitting deep. It just allows the opposition to play further up the field. Just one DM, and let us play higher up the field. That'll do for starters. Definitely agree with this. No point in playing down where we need to endlessly defend as we can’t take the pressure for the length of time we try to sit and absorb it. We do look ’better’ if we’re generally up their end and we don’t let them keep their defensive discipline. If we’re going to have a DM also we need one who can transition and do so quickly and start playing the ball forward swiftly to keep the game up where we are pressing. Cafu or Arter would be better suited to that role, but, we all know that as soon as Colback is fit, he'll be back in the side.
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