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Post by jazz1930 on Dec 18, 2020 12:59:19 GMT
Footballers "overwhelmingly" want to carry on taking the knee to the awful Black Lives Matter. Because they really care about George Floyd. Yeah right. The fans overwhelmingly are sick and tired of this mindless virtue-signalling ritual. But who cares what the fans think eh?
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Post by mrsmith on Dec 18, 2020 15:13:57 GMT
BLM is an important thing (in the US), but it is political and football should not be participating if it isn't prepared to engage with the political discussion surrounding it.
None of those overpaid millionaires face the oppression they are kneeling against and it is a pathetic and empty gesture from football.
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Post by richardroper on Dec 19, 2020 15:17:06 GMT
BLM is an important thing (in the US), but it is political and football should not be participating if it isn't prepared to engage with the political discussion surrounding it. None of those overpaid millionaires face the oppression they are kneeling against and it is a pathetic and empty gesture from football. It’s a strange thing. In the US it started with Colin Kapernick protesting the national anthem. It was a way of standing out from what everyone else was doing. Over here it’s the opposite it’s just everyone falling in line and copying everyone else. There’s nothing original about it. I get people wanting to stop racism, but this is just meaningless drivel. They just looking like they’re doing something without actually having to make a difference. |
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Post by corncobguy on Dec 29, 2020 14:10:23 GMT
I'm not going to a game as long as our players do this shite.
It goes without saying I'm happy for the club to make meaningful efforts to combat racism, but it's pathetic virtue signalling.
BLM in the UK has been hijacked by left wing militants. It should be nowhere near football. There are already existing anti racism bodies that should be properly funded and supported
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Post by corncobguy on Jan 10, 2021 8:39:54 GMT
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Post by Dane B on Jan 10, 2021 10:30:18 GMT
Once crowds are let back into grounds, this taking the knee shit will soon stop.
I read the other day that some people are withdrawing their Sky Sports subscription because they are fed up to the back teeth with Sky's over the top BLM agenda. If this protest gathers pace, Sky will soon drop it if it costs them revenue.
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Post by iks on Jan 15, 2021 12:48:31 GMT
Once crowds are let back into grounds, this taking the knee shit will soon stop. I read the other day that some people are withdrawing their Sky Sports subscription because they are fed up to the back teeth with Sky's over the top BLM agenda. If this protest gathers pace, Sky will soon drop it if it costs them revenue. Mate. Its not just BLM. There's a whole fucking movement brewing which is aimed at stifling free speech. I take facebook first and foremost. I'm currently under a 3 day restriction. A mate of mine looks as Nordic as they come, chiselled features, blond haired & blue eyed. All I said was ''Happy birthday to the last member of the Hitler youth movement'' as a joke, and he would've grinned & left it there. Instant restriction on posting. Then you get the BBC with their poxy warnings before every programme that some soft twat could be offended. Their double standards grip my shit. It's ok to have that David Walliams taking the mick out of elderly people by having a sketch of him dressed as an old lady pissing herself in a supermarket, or his fat bald mate in a wheelchair when he's not even disabled, yeah it's funny, but why show that but you can't watch 'it ain't half hot mum' because he says ''poof''? Its because those Little Britain fella's are their darlings....and don't get me started on MOTD, more fucking women than blokes on it nowadays. Channel 5 getting a black actress to play Anne Boleyn. Mixed race couples on every other advert. All agenda pushing in the media, because there's literally no other option other than turning it off. George Orwell was right, just a few decades off. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jan 30, 2021 5:25:58 GMT
Are they still doing the taking knee? I haven't really noticed. Seems a bit pointless now, are they just going to do it indefinitely?
Not worth getting annoyed about though, even if they stopped the game every ten minutes and all gathered in the centre of the pitch to sing Ebony and Ivory I'd still find it less irritating and intrusive than var....
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Post by hblock on Jan 30, 2021 17:09:42 GMT
Are they still doing the taking knee? I haven't really noticed. Seems a bit pointless now, are they just going to do it indefinitely? Not worth getting annoyed about though, even if they stopped the game every ten minutes and all gathered in the centre of the pitch to sing Ebony and Ivory I'd still find it less irritating and intrusive than var.... Agree with you completely on VAR, it’s spoilng the game. Goals need to be celebrated spontaneously, likewise the anguish of a penalty decision that goes against you. If you have to wait minutes as a panel watches the position from every conceivable angle then that spontaneity is gone along with any real joy in scoring. Also, have they changed the rules on when VAR is applied as I thought it was only supposed to be used in cases of a clear and obvious error, whereas it seems to be getting used more and more to rule out goals where someone’s shoelace is marginally offside. |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Feb 7, 2021 8:47:05 GMT
The 'clear and obvious' is only for subjective things. So things they consider to be factual eg. offsides, in or out the area, deciding where the arm becomes the shoulder(!) don't need to be 'clear and obvious' as they're simply wrong or right. Obviously in practice that's bollocks but that's the theory.
That Soucek one has really screwed up my sky fantasy football plans. Fingers crossed it gets over turned.....
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Post by mrsmith on Jun 5, 2021 20:59:09 GMT
Nice to see Southgate patronising England fans booing taking the knee as not "understanding the message". I reckon Southgate doesn't understand that his players actually are making a political statement as opposed to fans "thinking" its a political statement.
Also, Southgate is a dull and uninspiring England manager.
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Post by randomtask on Jun 6, 2021 10:01:29 GMT
Wasn't he just trying to say that they are not taking a knee in support of Black Lives Matter, which many people dislike and would therefore boo, but actually just for the FA's anti-racism campaigns? BLM is political, but just saying "Please stop racially abusing us!" isn't political and boo-worthy is it?
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Post by mrsmith on Jun 6, 2021 20:04:58 GMT
Right, so their taking the knee is entirely different from the taking the knee in support of BLM, the fact that they all started happening at the time of George Floyd's murder is entirely coincidental.
Anything to stop racism is to be commended, however, politics has no place in sport and taking a knee does fuck all to stop racism, or raise awareness about racism. It's pure tokenism.
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Post by randomtask on Jun 7, 2021 8:04:29 GMT
Well yes, taking a knee in support of your colleagues/teammates who are being racially abused is entirely different to support of BLM. Just like when someone takes a knee in front of the queen when they are being honoured doesn't mean they are supporting BLM either. That taking a knee thing in Game of Thrones, that wasn't in support of BLM either  Taking a knee, for various reasons, has been around a lot longer than BLM and just because they appropriated it it doesn't mean that every time someone does it from then on they are supporting them. I remember a few years back people starting going on about the OK symbol you make with your hands (circle thumb and forefinger and other 3 fingers up) was actually a white power symbol which is also ridiculous. Just because a few fuckers started using it like that it doesn't mean it only means that from then on. It's been the OK symbol for years well before they used it. I do agree that taking a knee is just tokenism now though. Much easier to take a knee before every game than to actually do anything real. |
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Post by corncobguy on Jun 9, 2021 12:56:13 GMT
Rio Ferdinand suggests fans who boo, are an "ignorant minority" who need "educating"
Pretty strong words from a guy who was fined 50k for a racist remark
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Post by mrsmith on Jun 9, 2021 14:28:04 GMT
Whatever our views on taking the knee, I think we can all agree that footballers have absolutely no right to call anybody else ignorant or to query the education of other human beings.
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Post by richardroper on Jun 10, 2021 16:20:04 GMT
Just remembering that when the first lockdown came out and it was suggested footballers should be sacrificing their salaries for a while and they all had a touch of the vapours and told us what an outrage that suggestion was.
Maybe rather than keep taking the knee we should ask championship and premier league players to sacrifice two weeks wages to be donated to grass roots charities working with disadvantaged kids in black communities. I think I know how that would go down.
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Post by popman on Jun 14, 2021 7:27:16 GMT
Are you going to give two weeks wages?.
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Post by popman on Jun 14, 2021 7:33:09 GMT
Well yes, taking a knee in support of your colleagues/teammates who are being racially abused is entirely different to support of BLM. Just like when someone takes a knee in front of the queen when they are being honoured doesn't mean they are supporting BLM either. That taking a knee thing in Game of Thrones, that wasn't in support of BLM either Taking a knee, for various reasons, has been around a lot longer than BLM and just because they appropriated it it doesn't mean that every time someone does it from then on they are supporting them. I remember a few years back people starting going on about the OK symbol you make with your hands (circle thumb and forefinger and other 3 fingers up) was actually a white power symbol which is also ridiculous. Just because a few fuckers started using it like that it doesn't mean it only means that from then on. It's been the OK symbol for years well before they used it. I do agree that taking a knee is just tokenism now though. Much easier to take a knee before every game than to actually do anything real. Everything is political even the air you breathe. |
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Post by mrsmith on Jul 3, 2021 7:27:45 GMT
While I really don't give a shit, it is interesting to see UEFA banning rainbow flags from the Euros after spending the best part of the last year on their black lives matter token crusade. This is why football should never be involved with politics.
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Taking a knee, for various reasons, has been around a lot longer than BLM and just because they appropriated it it doesn't mean that every time someone does it from then on they are supporting them.