While I want us to win every game they play I really hate the Premier League and l wish it didn't exist. I swear to god most people will only go to gape at these 'stars' of the game. Discuss.
Being a big club I think we belong in the Premier League, As an overseas fan no matter what league we are in I'm watching because my team is playing. Rarely do I look at the line ups of the team we'er playing, although that may change if we go up.
Promotion - To pay more money to sit in the same seat, in the same stadium, watching the same players, win less often.
I found it hard to get too enthusiastic about promotion in recent seasons mainly due the bizarre transfer policy. If we'd somehow fluked our way up under Lamouchi imagine the kind of no-hoper mercenaries and chancers who'd have pitched up as we blew the promotion bounty on twenty random new players. I'm a lot more positive now the management seem to have at least some control.
The biggest downside for me is VAR, but no doubt that will find its way into the Championship soon enough anyway. Biggest positive is getting to gape at the likes of Dele Ali and Ross Barkley. Don't forget your cameras
While I want us to win every game they play I really hate the Premier League and l wish it didn't exist. I swear to god most people will only go to gape at these 'stars' of the game. Discuss.
I feel exactly the same Andy. It's changed so much since the last time we were in it. Inflated ticked prices, ridiculous transfer fees, and even more ridiculous are the wages being earned by the players. It's also as corrupt as fuck when it comes to the profit and sustainability rules. How can Man United be a billion pound in debt and yet go out and sign whatever player they want?
Getting promoted to the "promised land" is normally followed by a season long relegation scrap, with most promoted clubs just happy to take the money and run.
The aim must be to emulate the likes of Brighton and Burnley and establish ourselves rather than yo-yoing like Norwich. That said - all the fans of the survival teams have to look forward too is another mainly winless year and surviving. I am confident that given the backing we would do ok next year in the premier league under Cooper. We would probably try and hang onto Johnson and Worrall and maybe try and do a deal for Garner and Davis. I doubt we would bother with Zinkernagel and Lowe and no chance of keeping Spence. So we would need a bit of investment. I would enjoy seeing us playing in the top level again and I will admit that I would probably get a a season ticket for me and my son and only manage half of the games - but seeing the likes of Liverpool and Citeh at the CG regularly would be great. I also have plenty of mates who are West Ham, Spurs and Arsenal so would give us an excuse to all travel up for the games with them in the away end and have a few beers. I would take it if we can manage it and be excited about it but would be surprised if we made any real impact other than a battle to avoid relegation
The benefits of promotion outweigh the negatives, in the same way that the negatives of relegation outweigh the positives. When we went down to League One there were lots of people who talked about the benefits and the opportunity for a fresh start. However, our fresh start was Calderwood, the football was utter shit, the players were crap, we were embarrassed in the cup competitions, the atmosphere at the ground was garbage and ticket prices still went up. If we go up then we will have more money, attract better players and be able to play the best clubs in the country. While we might not win as many games and the Premier League is much duller than the Championship, as long as the squad gives it their best (which under Cooper they have been doing) then I would be happy.
We have got to be positive and like has already been said try and emulate the likes of Brighton, I would guess their fans have been pretty happy over the past few seasons with playing big teams, pulling off quite a few shocks, bringing in some decent players, seeing some decent football, just take a look at their win against arsenal. On the other hand We have to start somewhere and maybe becoming a yo-yo club is the start. However Brentford have had a good first season in the prem and with no disrespect to them we are a bigger club. We should be able to attract quite a bit of attention if we do go up to the prem, not saying we have been as big as villa over the last 30 years but we are deffo a club that is closer in stature to them than Brentford. We might be able to bring in some really good solid signings that aren't going to break the bank and give us a good foundation to form a prem team, especially under Cooper's guidance.
The benefits of promotion outweigh the negatives, in the same way that the negatives of relegation outweigh the positives. When we went down to League One there were lots of people who talked about the benefits and the opportunity for a fresh start. However, our fresh start was Calderwood, the football was utter shit, the players were crap, we were embarrassed in the cup competitions, the atmosphere at the ground was garbage and ticket prices still went up. If we go up then we will have more money, attract better players and be able to play the best clubs in the country. While we might not win as many games and the Premier League is much duller than the Championship, as long as the squad gives it their best (which under Cooper they have been doing) then I would be happy.
The Premier is still an horrible league though mate.
The benefits of promotion outweigh the negatives, in the same way that the negatives of relegation outweigh the positives. When we went down to League One there were lots of people who talked about the benefits and the opportunity for a fresh start. However, our fresh start was Calderwood, the football was utter shit, the players were crap, we were embarrassed in the cup competitions, the atmosphere at the ground was garbage and ticket prices still went up. If we go up then we will have more money, attract better players and be able to play the best clubs in the country. While we might not win as many games and the Premier League is much duller than the Championship, as long as the squad gives it their best (which under Cooper they have been doing) then I would be happy.
The Premier is still an horrible league though mate.
Agree, probably nobody agrees with the way it's run apart from the top clubs, personally I don't think we should now be focussing on reasons why it wouldn't be nice to be there when that's what we have been battling to do for many years. Let's enjoy the ride and trust the club to get things right if we do go up and even if we come back down again.
Promotion is always the priority, but staying up is huge, you just have to look at other teams who have been relegated in the past and ending up being relegated again. ( not always straight away). Sadly it can be a downward spiral.
Having said that this is the best football I have seen for a long time and the running of the club is also better than we could have thought after recent seasons.
The chances of holding on to our best players and even managing to sign the odd loan player do rest on whether we can gain promotion, but the club have put themselves in a great position to achieve this.
Personally l don't give a monkeys who were playing, getting all goggly eyed over a few footballers at Man city or Liverpool might be alright for kids, but those days are long gone for this cat. 'If' we get promoted, then nothing less than mid table will satisfy me, and l believe with the right backing Cooper can achieve that. If we go straight back down then this Loving feeling will all be forgotten about and if l remember I'll check back on this thread.
I think we should always aim for promotion and then strive to finish as high as we can - investment if we go up is essential, I don't fancy watching us become a yo-yo club like Norwich. My main fear with promotion is the expectation and rash decisions - if we go up and struggle up until Christmas, I would hope we keep faith with Cooper rather than sacking him and ending up with a so-called 'survival expert'.
While I want us to win every game they play I really hate the Premier League and l wish it didn't exist. I swear to god most people will only go to gape at these 'stars' of the game. Discuss.
Despite paying through the nose for Sky Sports I stopped watching the Premier League years ago, for me it's no fun watching the same super rich teams share the honours amongst themselves while the rest can set their sights no higher than a Europa Conference League spot at best.
I know we're all loyal football fans, but I really don't know how fans of those Premier League teams who are always mid table or relegation battle material continue to maintain their interest. At least during our time in the Football League we've always had something achievable to chase, more than you can say for fans of most Premier League sides.
It will never happen, but it would be the best thing if the team who win the Championship decline promotion to focus on defending their title as English First Division Champions, aka the real champions of England.
I don't think we'll get promoted anyway. Seriously.
I'm regurgitating this opinion. I honestly believe we won't go up. Huddersfield will be the doing of us, plus our injury problems. The only hope we have is finishing in 3nd place, and with Bournemouth getting a late point at Fulham yesterday this is now even tougher to achieve. I was hoping Fulham would beat them yesterday and that would really put the ball in our court, giving us impetus to go for it in the next 2 games against Fulham and Bournemouth. These games will now be cagey, tense affairs, where l can't see us getting anything more than 2 points at best.
Just read that there is a small chance Davis might be back for the play offs which would be a huge boost. No word on Grabban as yet. I think Colback has done a good job at left back. Finishing second was and is a tall order. Assuming we finish in the play offs I think we have as much chance as anybody else.
