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Post by ricknffc on May 1, 2023 19:35:11 GMT
2-1 leicester
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Post by mrsmith on May 1, 2023 20:12:56 GMT
Agree that a draw would be the best result, but Everton cannot score goals, so this will be a big ask.
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Post by ricknffc on May 1, 2023 20:21:03 GMT
Agree that a draw would be the best result, but Everton cannot score goals, so this will be a big ask. 2-2 |
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Post by corncobguy on May 1, 2023 21:00:32 GMT
Finished 2-2
FWIW my predictions for the teams around us
Leeds
Man City a - Loss
Newcastle H - Loss
West Ham a - Draw
Spurs H - Draw/Win
Finish on 32/34 points
Leicester
Fulham a - Draw
Liverpool H - Loss/Draw
Newcastle a - Loss
West Ham H - Win
Finish on 34/35 Points
Everton
Brighton a - Loss/Draw
Man City H - Loss
Wolves a - Draw
Bournemouth H - Win
Finish on 32/33 Points
A win against Southampton would be massive and 'might' be enough but we'd probably still need something from the last three
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Post by mctavish on May 1, 2023 21:13:18 GMT
Great result for us. I cant see more than 1 from Leeds, Leicester and Everton getting over 2 points from their last 4 games. Will stick my neck out and say we're odds on to stay up now.
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Post by bryan on May 2, 2023 7:50:16 GMT
I can only see 3 points as potential in our final games and the other clubs have potential of at least 3 points in their final games also. Our goal difference could be a deciding factor.
Had Kouyate not been afraid of the ball on the 81st minute I would be a whole less worried right now.
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Post by mrsmith on May 2, 2023 15:06:20 GMT
Leeds look like they are tired of being a Premier League team and appear set to appoint Big Sam to help relegate them. Good news.
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 2, 2023 20:36:30 GMT
Looking at the table and fixtures I think it'd have been better for Forest if Leicester had won, write them off and keep Everton down there. Were going to need at least 34, likely more, to finish above Leicester whereas it's possible we could get 33 and still finish above Everton and Leeds.
The timing of the Chelsea game is unfortunate. They've been awful the last month or two but it looks like they'll have appointed a new manager by the time we play them and, even if he hasn't actually taken over, you'd think it'll provoke some sort of response.
Leeds looking a bit desperate.
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Post by brummiered on May 3, 2023 11:16:16 GMT
Looking at the remaining fixtures, it's hard to see where Leicester or Leeds are going to pick up points in their current form. They could of course but they've got some tough fixtures. The only thing you might say is that some of the teams they're playing at the end might already be on the beach. Hopefully Palace might be for us too.
I think the only thing we need to be concerned about right now is Monday's game at home. I think if we win that it gives us a platform.
For the record, here's the 3 around us fixtures
Leicester
Fulham (a)
Liverpool (h)
Newcastle (a)
West Ham (h)
Leeds
Man City (a)
Newcastle (h)
West Ham (a)
Spurs (h)
Everton
Brighton (a)
Man City (h)
Wolves (a)
Bournemouth (h)
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Post by ben on May 3, 2023 13:56:49 GMT
Reckon Everton will get a result against Bournemouth at home
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Post by Art Vandelay on May 3, 2023 19:08:38 GMT
Everton are pretty much nailed on to win on the final day with Bournemouth already safe. And if it comes to the worst they can always bribe the opposition keeper, like they did in the 90s*
I'd assume Leicester will get three points too with West Ham likely safe and probably a European final coming up shortly afterwards. I'd expect at least one of them, probably both, to pick up at least a point from one of the other games.
Leeds look the most in trouble of all four - worst form, leaking goals, and a desperate panic sacking. Hopefully Allardyce has the same kind of impact he did with West Brom....
*allegedly.
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Post by ricknffc on May 3, 2023 20:56:48 GMT
Surely Woy will have a word with his players and encourage a romantic ending for forest to stay up on the last day ha.
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Post by brummiered on May 4, 2023 11:57:09 GMT
I can only see 3 points as potential in our final games and the other clubs have potential of at least 3 points in their final games also. Our goal difference could be a deciding factor. Had Kouyate not been afraid of the ball on the 81st minute I would be a whole less worried right now. You're right and to be honest, we could have been saying that all season about the points that stupid mistakes have cost us. These are the ones I can think off of the top of my head: Cook against Bournemouth (cost 1 point but should have had all 3 in the bag anyway) Shelvey against Everton (pen) and Villa (cost 2 points and 1 point) Moussa handball against Newcastle (cost 1 point) Kouyate against Palace (cost 3 points) Lodi who I think equally fucked up against Palace Then add in games that we've thrown away just because we have e.g. Everton away and Wolves at home (argument Wolves away as well). There's no way on gods earth we should be anywhere near this position and mistakes and decision making (including Cooper) have cost us dearly. Games we should have won and shouldn't have lost have cost us around 8 points and I'm pretty sure you can probably easily add another 4 or 5 on to that without any problem. We should be nearer to 40 points instead of being on 30. It is what it is though and the players need to sort their shit out and treat these games like cup finals. |
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Post by ricknffc on May 5, 2023 5:59:01 GMT
I can only see 3 points as potential in our final games and the other clubs have potential of at least 3 points in their final games also. Our goal difference could be a deciding factor. Had Kouyate not been afraid of the ball on the 81st minute I would be a whole less worried right now. You're right and to be honest, we could have been saying that all season about the points that stupid mistakes have cost us. These are the ones I can think off of the top of my head: Cook against Bournemouth (cost 1 point but should have had all 3 in the bag anyway) Shelvey against Everton (pen) and Villa (cost 2 points and 1 point) Moussa handball against Newcastle (cost 1 point) Kouyate against Palace (cost 3 points) Lodi who I think equally fucked up against Palace Then add in games that we've thrown away just because we have e.g. Everton away and Wolves at home (argument Wolves away as well). There's no way on gods earth we should be anywhere near this position and mistakes and decision making (including Cooper) have cost us dearly. Games we should have won and shouldn't have lost have cost us around 8 points and I'm pretty sure you can probably easily add another 4 or 5 on to that without any problem. We should be nearer to 40 points instead of being on 30. It is what it is though and the players need to sort their shit out and treat these games like cup finals. Some points definitely valid but some I don't agree with. The likes of wolves, Everton etc. Football is football, teams concede late goals that's just a fact, no matter who you are. You can't eradicate every mistake or every bit of misfortune in football because goals have to be scored at the end of the day. Even top teams have been conceding late all season. Arsenal for example, Liverpool v spurs, united last night v brighton. I don't get sometimes why everyone makes an argument that every goal is 'avoidable'. Well yeah every goal is avoidable if you did everything correct 100% of the time and you are hands down better than the opposition but no team on the earth does everything 100% all the time because football is played by human beings. We are Gona throw points away each and every season. Unless we got to a point of ability like man city who still throw points away but just a lot less. They still concede avoidable goals. Pep will say our goal against them was avoidable etc. The individual mistakes are harder to take as yes they do look more avoidable than someone pinging it in top corner from 20 yards but still people are going to make mistakes in football and it does seem like we have had too many this year but maybe they are highlighted more because they have been costly. In the championship nowhere near as many of these mistakes would have been punished. Oh and another bit of horse shit last night... The Brighton pen, where is Dermot Gallagher? Is he not going to say that the box was ' congested'? like the United handball in our game that wasn't given? Fucking ridiculous practically identical to Maguire's handball against us but this time it's given to Brighton. What a crock of shit that was against us saying they didn't give the pen because it was 'congested' it's a corner and there are 15-20 players stood in an 18 yard box, course it's going to be congested! Fucking corrupt. |
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Post by brummiered on May 5, 2023 9:41:54 GMT
You're right and to be honest, we could have been saying that all season about the points that stupid mistakes have cost us. These are the ones I can think off of the top of my head: Cook against Bournemouth (cost 1 point but should have had all 3 in the bag anyway) Shelvey against Everton (pen) and Villa (cost 2 points and 1 point) Moussa handball against Newcastle (cost 1 point) Kouyate against Palace (cost 3 points) Lodi who I think equally fucked up against Palace Then add in games that we've thrown away just because we have e.g. Everton away and Wolves at home (argument Wolves away as well). There's no way on gods earth we should be anywhere near this position and mistakes and decision making (including Cooper) have cost us dearly. Games we should have won and shouldn't have lost have cost us around 8 points and I'm pretty sure you can probably easily add another 4 or 5 on to that without any problem. We should be nearer to 40 points instead of being on 30. It is what it is though and the players need to sort their shit out and treat these games like cup finals. Some points definitely valid but some I don't agree with. The likes of wolves, Everton etc. Football is football, teams concede late goals that's just a fact, no matter who you are. You can't eradicate every mistake or every bit of misfortune in football because goals have to be scored at the end of the day. Even top teams have been conceding late all season. Arsenal for example, Liverpool v spurs, united last night v brighton. I don't get sometimes why everyone makes an argument that every goal is 'avoidable'. Well yeah every goal is avoidable if you did everything correct 100% of the time and you are hands down better than the opposition but no team on the earth does everything 100% all the time because football is played by human beings. We are Gona throw points away each and every season. Unless we got to a point of ability like man city who still throw points away but just a lot less. They still concede avoidable goals. Pep will say our goal against them was avoidable etc. The individual mistakes are harder to take as yes they do look more avoidable than someone pinging it in top corner from 20 yards but still people are going to make mistakes in football and it does seem like we have had too many this year but maybe they are highlighted more because they have been costly. In the championship nowhere near as many of these mistakes would have been punished. Oh and another bit of horse shit last night... The Brighton pen, where is Dermot Gallagher? Is he not going to say that the box was ' congested'? like the United handball in our game that wasn't given? Fucking ridiculous practically identical to Maguire's handball against us but this time it's given to Brighton. What a crock of shit that was against us saying they didn't give the pen because it was 'congested' it's a corner and there are 15-20 players stood in an 18 yard box, course it's going to be congested! Fucking corrupt. Yeah correct, that's why I didn't bracket Wolves or Everton with the others. We have though over the season conceded some very avoidable goals that have cost us points. Probably the biggest two being Moussa v Newcastle and last week with Kouyate. Its almost gives some solace that we've put ourselves in a position where we're pissed off because we should have got more from games which means that performances can't be that bad. Talking of last night, what I also get very pissed off with was Mitoma's dive in the box in the first half. Johnson got booked for less than that and frigging hell Rashford in the second half was even worse. Utter bollocks consistency. Anyhow, bring on Monday, hopefully we can do the business. |
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Post by cludoe on May 5, 2023 21:11:13 GMT
Let's get three points v Southampton first then all to play for. If we did happen to lose or draw then we really would be staring relegation in the face
Away to Chelsea after that who are not doing well by there own standards. It's not beyond us to get a draw.
Home to Arsenal, would be great if City could win the league before we play them as they would have nothing to play for. Doubtful that will happen so I expect Arsenal to beat us
Last game v Palace could see us needing something depending on how the others around us have fared.
Just hope we don't get anymore injuries.
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Post by bearder2006 on May 6, 2023 8:33:37 GMT
Southampton has to be a win then one more win ?
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Post by cludoe on May 6, 2023 15:46:55 GMT
Southampton has to be a win then one more win ? If we could somehow get two wins I think that would do. One win we could relegated on goal difference. So many things could happen but at least we still have a fighting chance. |
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Post by corncobguy on May 6, 2023 16:07:31 GMT
3 points is a must against Southampton. If we can't win that, we should just start preparing for games against Preston and Rotherham now.
A slight blow that Man City couldn't hammer Leeds. If there is a tie for points, then you'd think our goal difference would be the worst of the clubs down there
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Post by ricknffc on May 8, 2023 14:22:45 GMT
Fulham 2 up v leicester
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