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Post by ricknffc on May 14, 2023 17:38:29 GMT
So...
Everton lost 3-0 to city and Brighton beat arsenal 3-0. Title all but over, city 5 points ahead ( including a point for goal difference) shame city don't play their game in hand before we meet arsenal or it may have been over for them. Arsenal simply have to beat us to keep their slim hopes alive.
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 18:58:27 GMT
All eyes on this one now then. Come on Liverpool!
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 19:34:48 GMT
Get in Liverpool ahead
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 19:36:49 GMT
2-0 two in 3 minutes. Great goal too.
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 19:39:29 GMT
Nearly 3, one on one missed straight after they scored the 2nd
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Post by corncobguy on May 15, 2023 19:58:56 GMT
Some data specialists have said
37 points - 0% chance of relegation
36 points - 2%
35 points - 10%
34 points - 43%
So we could just make it simple by beating Arsenal on Saturday
Leicester are just so poor defensively and low on confidence. I can't see them getting anything from Newcastle away either
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 20:31:48 GMT
What a hit. 3-0
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 20:32:51 GMT
Some data specialists have said 37 points - 0% chance of relegation 36 points - 2% 35 points - 10% 34 points - 43% So we could just make it simple by beating Arsenal on Saturday Leicester are just so poor defensively and low on confidence. I can't see them getting anything from Newcastle away either If our goal difference was better than Leeds and Leicester I would be very confident of us staying up but it's just that sodding extra point we need because of it |
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Post by bryan on May 15, 2023 20:56:52 GMT
Leicester look relegated. Such a poor performance despite it being Liverpool. That pretty much leaves 1 spot to go and agreed with Leeds and Everton’s run ins reckon we need one more point.
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 21:08:00 GMT
Right, it's getting bloody interesting now.
For us to be in the bottom 3 this weekend both Leeds and Everton would have to win and us to lose.
For what it's worth I think if that does end up being the scenario we could be in trouble and would be relying on others on that final day.
If we get 0 points from last 2 games I think we are down. If we get 1 point I think we need to be very lucky to stay up. Anymore 2 points+ I think we are safe.
Let's just beat arsenal on Saturday evening and have a good piss up!
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Post by ricknffc on May 15, 2023 21:37:20 GMT
Well sky sports have just put the percentages up of likeliness to go down ...
Forest 20%
Everton 27%
Leeds 67%
Leicester 85%
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Post by mctavish on May 15, 2023 22:23:06 GMT
Leicester wont get points agains the Geordies so thats them down. I can see Everton finishing with 36. It's Leeds that worry me... theyve looked a different side since Allardyce joined.
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Post by randomtask on May 16, 2023 8:12:02 GMT
Next weekend's fixtures are:
Wolves v Everton
Forest v Arsenal
West Ham v Leeds (Sun)
Newcastle v Leicester (Mon)
I still really worry about our chances. It's the damn goal difference. It's got all the hallmarks of that final day cock up with the play offs a few seasons ago. Everton and Leeds both have very winnable games which means even if we somehow beat Arsenal they could still both go above us on the final day...
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Post by bryan on May 16, 2023 12:04:29 GMT
Next weekend's fixtures are: Wolves v Everton Forest v Arsenal West Ham v Leeds (Sun) Newcastle v Leicester (Mon) I still really worry about our chances. It's the damn goal difference. It's got all the hallmarks of that final day cock up with the play offs a few seasons ago. Everton and Leeds both have very winnable games which means even if we somehow beat Arsenal they could still both go above us on the final day... We still need a point as I can see Leeds and Everton picking up more points in their final games. Realistically we need to better Leeds as I’m expecting Everton to beat Bournemouth so will go above us on goal difference. Leeds likely to beat Spurs at home and lose to West Ham. Have a feeling final game of the season is going to be nail biting! |
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Post by mrsmith on May 16, 2023 20:01:50 GMT
Whatever happens, fair play to the manager and players for giving it a go. When we came up, I thought we would finish 20th and with less fight than the 1998/99 season. The fact we are going into the final two games with a chance of staying staying up is incredible.
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Post by ben on May 17, 2023 8:21:05 GMT
Whatever happens, fair play to the manager and players for giving it a go. When we came up, I thought we would finish 20th and with less fight than the 1998/99 season. The fact we are going into the final two games with a chance of staying staying up is incredible. It will be a massive failure if we go down. A failure in owner meddling and erratic approach to signings. Cooper has also shown his inexperience (because he is at Premier League Level) but we already knew that when he grabbed the basket case at the bottom of the Championship and performed a miracle. |
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Post by corncobguy on May 17, 2023 9:24:19 GMT
It's actually a minor miracle we're in this position with two to play
30 odd signings made by different cliques at the club, with no single football philosophy being used to recruit players.
By my count we've had 15 players with significant periods of absence at different times this year. Serious questions need to be asked about this - Who missed Richard's broken leg on his medical? Why have players like Niakhate and Kouyate missed so much of the season after we told there injuries were initially innocuous
There have been large parts of the season we've looked lost on the pitch, understandable with the lack of continuity in selection > only MGW and Johnson have started more than 25 games this season
If we somehow stay up, then lets hope we learn lessons, we could build a strong spine around Niakhate, Felipe, Aurier, Mangala, Danilo and Yates starting every week
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Post by brummiered on May 17, 2023 11:13:33 GMT
Whatever happens, fair play to the manager and players for giving it a go. When we came up, I thought we would finish 20th and with less fight than the 1998/99 season. The fact we are going into the final two games with a chance of staying staying up is incredible. It will be a massive failure if we go down. A failure in owner meddling and erratic approach to signings. Cooper has also shown his inexperience (because he is at Premier League Level) but we already knew that when he grabbed the basket case at the bottom of the Championship and performed a miracle. Massive failure? Did you fully expect us to 100% stay up after that day last May when we got promoted having only about 8 reasonable players in the squad? It will be disappointing for sure, especially from the positions we have been in but a failure, no chance. |
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Post by ben on May 17, 2023 12:28:55 GMT
It will be a massive failure if we go down. A failure in owner meddling and erratic approach to signings. Cooper has also shown his inexperience (because he is at Premier League Level) but we already knew that when he grabbed the basket case at the bottom of the Championship and performed a miracle. Massive failure? Did you fully expect us to 100% stay up after that day last May when we got promoted having only about 8 reasonable players in the squad? It will be disappointing for sure, especially from the positions we have been in but a failure, no chance. Yes I expected us to spend big and build a team based on the philosophy that Cooper cooked up in The Championship. Instead we spent big like a drunk Michael Jackson walking round Harrods and then continued to make bizarre purchases like Wood and Voldemort. i'm not saying it's easy but the owners got giddy and then expected an inexperienced manager to form a team out of the rabble bot to mention the failures from the fitness coaches. |
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Post by ricknffc on May 20, 2023 14:29:31 GMT
Everton dictating this game. Look good for the win so far if they get it
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