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Post by legsakimbo on Nov 24, 2020 21:44:51 GMT
At this time I'm going to assume you know fuck all about football... At least you seem to have dropped the pathetic excuse of blaming the ref every game. He is always the same - the most condescending person on the forum Condescending I can take in spades ER, but don't be condescending by completely rearranging the meaning of others comments made to fit a losing argument. |
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Post by Dane B on Nov 24, 2020 21:47:28 GMT
Funny thing is, the same shit players we have are all of a sudden getting forward and attacking, and guess what, we look the better side and most likely to score.
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Post by iks on Nov 24, 2020 21:51:26 GMT
Funny thing is, the same shit players we have are all of a sudden getting forward and attacking, and guess what, we look the better side and most likely to score. I'm listening to Merson on gillete whatsit. He said himself, shame they started so defensively as they've got players who can play, just a shame they only started doing it when they were 2-0 down. That is exclusively down to managerial instructions. |
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 21:51:34 GMT
But still can't score and it's easy to attack when the other team is defending a lead. If we attack when they aren't we leak goals because we're shit. Admit it, we could play til Christmas and not score. We're shit, you all know our whole squad bar say five players is shit. But it's the manager...
Fucking lunatics to a man. No point in trying to dress it up any more than the wank that fills up our squad.
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Post by jackylate on Nov 24, 2020 21:51:35 GMT
We are just a pub side really..midfield is void of any talent,
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Post by ricknffc on Nov 24, 2020 21:51:53 GMT
1 25 yard shot will not get you goals, let alone wins, I'm so fucking done with watching these Muppets. Expect to be truly rooted in the bottom 3 after the next 5 games
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 21:56:53 GMT
We are just a pub side really..midfield is void of any talent,
I'd say Knockhaert, Ameobi, Lolley, Taylor and McKenna are good enough. Whatever happens we've got three wank defenders and two wank midfielders playing every game, no matter who's available.
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Post by iks on Nov 24, 2020 21:57:26 GMT
But still can't score and it's easy to attack when the other team is defending a lead. If we attack when they aren't we leak goals because we're shit. Admit it, we could play til Christmas and not score. We're shit, you all know our whole squad bar say five players is shit. But it's the manager... Fucking lunatics to a man. No point in trying to dress it up any more than the wank that fills up our squad. I'm pretty sure Paul Merson knows a bit more about football than you. |
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Post by redman on Nov 24, 2020 21:58:35 GMT
Lolley has got it in him to be good enough but has been absolutely shite this season
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 21:58:50 GMT
But still can't score and it's easy to attack when the other team is defending a lead. If we attack when they aren't we leak goals because we're shit. Admit it, we could play til Christmas and not score. We're shit, you all know our whole squad bar say five players is shit. But it's the manager... Fucking lunatics to a man. No point in trying to dress it up any more than the wank that fills up our squad. I'm pretty sure Paul Merson knows a bit more about football than you.
We've talked about this before, you haven't had an original idea since 1972. Pipe down.
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Post by bryan on Nov 24, 2020 22:02:04 GMT
We never looked like scoring. Second half I counted 10 crosses/ corners/ free kicks which did not get on the end of a forest head. Ameobi had some good glimpses but our midfield is a joke. Arter, Colback and Yates in midfield will take us down. Colback gave away the ball too many times, should have conceded 2 penalties, he’s a calamity.
I cannot understand how we don’t Mighten in the team, anyone with a bit of energy. Such a dull club to support at the moment. Well done McKenna and Ameobi today.
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 22:03:35 GMT
We never looked like scoring. Second half I counted 10 crosses/ corners/ free kicks which did not get on the end of a forest head. Ameobi had some good glimpses but our midfield is a joke. Arter, Colback and Yates in midfield will take us down. Colback gave away the ball too many times, should have conceded 2 penalties, he’s a calamity. I cannot understand how we don’t Mighten in the team, anyone with a bit of energy. Such a dull club to support at the moment. Well done McKenna and Ameobi today.
Agree on Mighten, the only player in the squad who's willing to attack his man and has a bit of pace. Course he falls over before he manages to cross but at least he's willing to have a go.
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Post by ricknffc on Nov 24, 2020 22:06:33 GMT
It's almost as if people think having a wank team throwing caution to the wind will suddenly produce winning football. Nope, if you've got a wank team you've got a wank team and you'll always need to be more cautious to stop yourself getting a battering every week. Does anybody expect us to out football other teams and score more goals than them? Seriously? [br To be fair Chaz Clough had a wank team as individuals just like you say we have now but it's making a good team out of them, now I'm not saying this team can be European champions but fuck me let's come up with a plan that will get us up the pitch and in and around their box the more chances we create the odds are the more goals we will score |
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Post by legsakimbo on Nov 24, 2020 22:09:50 GMT
Funny thing is, the same shit players we have are all of a sudden getting forward and attacking, and guess what, we look the better side and most likely to score. This has been the problem for what seems an eternity, in short spells Forest show they CAN play football, in spells we pass the ball sublimely working the ball out of tight areas, at times Colback actually gets his head up and tries to open up the opposition, at times we attack in numbers and look threatening, playing through the middle or creating overlaps in wide positions and then..... Well it's minute one in a new game and we revert to the game management of defending deep, Colback passing SIDEWAYS, zero movement off the ball meaning blindingly obvious nervy players making shit hospital passes of ten yards or alternatively getting the ball up field from turning back and recycling it for a thump it forward to a lone striker running his arse off from one flank to the other and back again. This leads to one thing ever which is borne out by our lack of goals, which is for the ball to be gifted back to the opposition who then proceed to do NONE OF THESE THINGS. This is Forests tactic employed every single game, it doesn't work, the players are clearly nervous employing this tactic, because they are clearly incapable of doing the very fundamental badics, and this is 100% down to the Manager, we only ever look good in any way when we are losing. |
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 22:12:33 GMT
It's almost as if people think having a wank team throwing caution to the wind will suddenly produce winning football. Nope, if you've got a wank team you've got a wank team and you'll always need to be more cautious to stop yourself getting a battering every week. Does anybody expect us to out football other teams and score more goals than them? Seriously? [br To be fair Chaz Clough had a wank team as individuals just like you say we have now but it's making a good team out of them, now I'm not saying this team can be European champions but fuck me let's come up with a plan that will get us up the pitch and in and around their box the more chances we create the odds are the more goals we will score
I've said before we're blighted by Clough syndrome. Do you see another Clough coming here, btw, he had Taylor bringing shit hot players in to raise the standard so that's a bit of a myth.
Either way, do you see another Clough coming here or should we just get our act in order regarding recruitment so a manager who isn't Clough can compete?
We've just employed a bloke who's record at our level is shit hot. Apparently he's shit though. Seriously. This club deserves every defeat it gets. Shit club, shit fans, shit owners. A full wank circle.
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Post by redman on Nov 24, 2020 22:15:27 GMT
Serious question Chaz but are you alright?
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 22:17:33 GMT
Serious question Chaz but are you alright?
Yeah all good mate. I've just got ocd with fuckwittery.
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Post by legsakimbo on Nov 24, 2020 22:17:38 GMT
But still can't score and it's easy to attack when the other team is defending a lead. If we attack when they aren't we leak goals because we're shit. Admit it, we could play til Christmas and not score. We're shit, you all know our whole squad bar say five players is shit. But it's the manager... Fucking lunatics to a man. No point in trying to dress it up any more than the wank that fills up our squad. And why the fuck do you think the other side is defending a lead for the love of Mary? Because we never ever take the game to the opposition, we sit back and inevitably concede then start to play a bit of football when all hope is virtually lost. Please tell me you at least acknowledge that this is Forests one and only tactic. |
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Post by charliecheswick on Nov 24, 2020 22:24:31 GMT
But still can't score and it's easy to attack when the other team is defending a lead. If we attack when they aren't we leak goals because we're shit. Admit it, we could play til Christmas and not score. We're shit, you all know our whole squad bar say five players is shit. But it's the manager... Fucking lunatics to a man. No point in trying to dress it up any more than the wank that fills up our squad. And why the fuck do you think the other side is defending a lead for the love of Mary? Because we never ever take the game to the opposition, we sit back and inevitably concede then start to play a bit of football when all hope is virtually lost. Please tell me you at least acknowledge that this is Forests one and only tactic.
We've played every kind of lineup, every kind of formation, every kind of tactic this season and can't score. We can't score because our players are fucking useless. I don't want to knock 'em, they trying their hardest, they just aren't good enough.
Honestly, out of our team I'd have McKenna as being good enough at the back, one of Lolly, Ameobi and Knockheart being good enough but requiring better on the other wing, and Taylor being good enough. Doesn't matter how you line that lot up, we're going to be absolutely useless because we'll have three shit defenders, two shit midfielders and no pace at all in attack. Plus our goalkeeper is a bit suspect.
Other than that, feel free to discuss the benefits of throwing them forward or holding them back.
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Post by ricknffc on Nov 24, 2020 22:24:53 GMT
[br To be fair Chaz Clough had a wank team as individuals just like you say we have now but it's making a good team out of them, now I'm not saying this team can be European champions but fuck me let's come up with a plan that will get us up the pitch and in and around their box the more chances we create the odds are the more goals we will score
I've said before we're blighted by Clough syndrome. Do you see another Clough coming here, btw, he had Taylor bringing shit hot players in to raise the standard so that's a bit of a myth.
Either way, do you see another Clough coming here or should we just get our act in order regarding recruitment so a manager who isn't Clough can compete?
We've just employed a bloke who's record at our level is shit hot. Apparently he's shit though. Seriously. This club deserves every defeat it gets. Shit club, shit fans, shit owners. A full wank circle.
It would be nice to see some of the basics in our game though wouldn't it. Your not telling me the likes of Wycombe, Coventry, rotherham, Barnsley etc are any less wank than us. End of the matter is hughton has better players at his disposal than clubs like that, and yes he has only been in 5 mins but I can't see anything yet in hughton displaying his idea or philosophy. At least with Lamouchi you saw it, absorb the pressure and hit them fast on the counter and be effective with the limited chances we had, especially effective against top teams. We should be seeing something from hughton. What change have we actually seen from the shite start to the season from Lamouchi? Of course it's the players too, but why aren't we able to have a fluidity in different positions? Why are we restricting ourselves to only being allowed to be in certain positions on the pitch. Colback and Yates running past Taylor into channels being our furthest man forward, is that going to happen? Is it fuck, but that's what we need. Not that they are good enough in the box to do anything with it but we need dynamism. We have brought in 15 players or so majority who are rigid and will only play in a certain portion of the pitch. The only players we have brought in with any fluidity are Taylor and knockaert and you arguably want Taylor to stay in the middle. Yes hughton is stuck with who he has but he needs to come up with a formula to work with what he's got, they have ability but not playing like this, to this way |
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